Józef Magnuski - I1149 - Individual Information

Józef Magnuski ‏(I1149)‏

Surname: Magnuski
Given Names: Józef

Gender: Male Male

Birth: about 1748

25 Ostrzeszów, Ostrzeszów, ostrzeszowski, wielkopolskie, Polska
Death: 5 August 1838 ‏(Age 90)‏ Warszawa Wola, Warszawa, Warszawa, Mazowieckie, Polska

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Birth	about 1748 25 25 Ostrzeszów, Ostrzeszów, ostrzeszowski, wielkopolskie, Polska Note: Ostrzeszów 51,426853 17,931818 Według aktu ślubu syna Franciszka Ksawerego w 1820 r. liczył 69 lat, czyli mógł się urodzić w 1751 r. Beginnings of Ostrzeszów date back to the 13th century. It was granted civic rights in 1283. During the reign of Casimir III of Poland a castle was built in Ostrzeszów, which formed a part of a defense line on the Polish – Czech border of that time. From the 16th until the 18th century Ostrzeszów was a city "starosty", a seat of a county and lands tribunals. The city was burned down by Swedes during the Swedish Deluge of 1656. In 1793, as a result of the second partition of Poland, Ostrzeszów became part of Prussia. During the annexation period, under a German name Schildberg, it was a county town. It was also an important centre of Protestantism ‏(Poles and Germans)‏. After World War I the town of Ostrzeszów returned to the territory of Poland.
Marriage	Religious Marriage Jadwiga Sobierajska - about 1789 ‏(Age 41)‏ Polska Note: Marriage date is assumed. No documents to support date or place. Daughter Apolonia died in 1790.
Occupation	piwowar i młynarz Warszawa, Warszawa, Warszawa, Mazowieckie, Polska
Residence	between 1817 and 1820 ‏(Age 69)‏ Warszawa, Warszawa, Warszawa, Mazowieckie, Polska Address: ul. Młynarska 3106A ‏(Cyrkuł IV miasta Warszawy, parafia wolska)‏
Death	5 August 1838 - godz. 6 rano ‏(Age 90)‏ Warszawa Wola, Warszawa, Warszawa, Mazowieckie, Polska Latitude: N52.235004 Longitude: E20.972838
Burial	August 1838 ‏(Age 90)‏
Globally unique Identifier	DC756B264D6E6A42A130B56983F657A1A90F
Last Change	25 October 2015 - 14:51:45

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Parents Family (F573)
Father	Father of Józef Magnuski 1723 - 1798
Mother	Mother of Józef NN 1723 - 1798
	Józef Magnuski 1748 - 1838

Immediate Family (F413)
Wife	Jadwiga Sobierajska 1758 - 1838
Daughter (Birth)	Apolonia Magnuska - 1790
Son (Birth)	Szymon Seweryn Magnuski 1789 -
Son	Seweryn Szymon Magnuski 1790 -
Son (Birth)	Tadeusz Józef Honorat Magnuski 1792 - 1866
Daughter (Birth)	Matylda Teodora Regina Szkocka Eufrozyna Męczennica Magnuska 1794 -
Son	Franciszek Ksawery Magnuski 1795 - 1880
Daughter	Marianna Magnuska 1797 -
Son (Birth)	Mikołaj Magnuski 1797 - 1797

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Note	Z Ksiegi Zgonow parafii Wola, Warszawa rok 1838, zapis # Dzialo sie to w Parafii Wolskiej Dnia Piatego Sierpnia Tysiac Osiemset Trzydziestego Osmego roku o Godzinie Siódmej wieczor Stawil sie Franciszek Magnowski wlasciciel domu przy ulicy Wolskiej pod liczba Trzy tysiace sto dwanascie zamieszkaly lat Czterdziesci dwa majacy Syn Nieboszczyka i Adam Gajer Organista Kosciola Wolskiego przy Ulicy Woskiej pod liczba Trzy tysiace sto zamieszkaly lat Dwadziescia cztery majacy i Oswiadczyli ze w Dniu Dzisiejszym o Godzinie Szóstej z rana Umarl Józef Magnowski przy Synie zostajacy przy Ulicy Wolskiej pod liczba Trzy tysiace sto dwanascie zamieszkaly lat liczacy dziwiedziesiat rodem z Ksiestwa Poznanskiego Syn Rodzicow z imienia niewiadomych Malzonkow Magnowskich pozostawiajacych po sobie Owdowiala Zone Jadwiga z Soborajow Dwóch synow i jedna Córke zamezna, letnich. Po przekonaniu sie naocznie o Zejsciu Magnowskiego Akt ten Stawiajacym przeczytany i przez nich podpisany zostal. Ks Jan ........ Kanonik Warszawski i Proboszcz Wolski Franciszek Magnowski Adam Gajer. It happened in Wolska Parish on 5 Aug 1838 at 7 pm. Franciszek Magnowski 42 years old, owner ‏(and inhabitant)‏ of the house at 3112 Wolska Str. and Adam Gajer church organist at Wola Church inhabitant at 3100 Wolska Str. 24 years old came and stated that Jozef Magnowski age 90 died today at 6 a.m. Jozef Magnowski lived at his son place and was originally from Ksiestwo Poznanskie, name of his parents unknown. Deceased left wife, Jadwiga nee Soboraj, two sons and one daughter addresses unknown. After making sure myself of his death, document this was read to those who came and signed by them. Pastor Jan ….. Canon of Warszawa and vicar of Wola. Franciszek Magnowski Adam Gajer
Note	From research of Robert Magnuski: Józef was a brewer and miller ‏(braxator and molendinator in Latin; mielcarz or piwowar and mlynarz in Polish)‏ working at the properties of local farm or land owners. His social status was "honestus".
Note	From Robert Magnuski: Hank, Attached please find remaining scans of Magnuski family from Gralewo taken at the diocese archive in Plock. Note the scan with birth of twins. According to Geneteka's birth entries there was a birth of nameless Magnuski in 1797. That was Nicolas ‏(Mikolaj in Polish)‏ twin brother of Marianna. The only event of Magnuskis from Gralewo that is missing as compared to geneteka entries is death certificate of Apolonia in 1790. This is due to lack of records down from 1792 at the archive. However lack of her birth entry at the birth register that has consisted records from 1760 means that Josephus & Hedvigis moved into Gralewo from another location. It is quite likely then to assume that their marriage took place not in Gralewo but at some other location. Out of curiosity I typed "Sobierajski" into geneteka births browser for entire Mazowieckie - no single entry for that name. There are still not too many parishes indexed into geneteka from Mazowieckie but lack of even a single birth record for "Sobierajski" may mean that Jadwiga truly came from Kujawy district and Jozef came from Wielkie Ksiestwo Poznanskie as recorded at their death certificates. Why then they came to Gralewo ? The only reason I can think of was a job. Jozef was a brewer and miller ‏( braxator and molendinator in Latin; mielcarz or piwowar and mlynarz in Polish)‏ working at the properties of local farm or land owners. His social status was "honestus" I also asked for a marriage register but the earliest available was from 1793-1825. Irrelevant but I checked marriages till 1825 to see if any Magnuski would appear on the record - none. You wondered if given name of Matylda could have anything to do with Normans. No. They were given by the priest and chosen by the priest according to the practice and custom of times. Jozef not even heard of Mathilda of Scotland however when the priest had chosen that name/s he might have approved them. I could spend at the archive only 90 min as I was on the way to Bydgoszcz for an appointmet but it proved enough to register everything pertaining to your lines at that archive. Living in Gralewo was just a short period in life of that family. That's all
Note	From Robert Magnuski: But the Gralewo story looks to be as complete as we can make it at this time. Yes, Gralewo was 20 years long episode for Joseph and Hedvigis and important one. Almost all their children were born there and his income kept accumulating and got substantial enough to advance the family to Warsaw and invest in real estate. Title could have been bought under certain conditions. However Gralewo records refers to Joseph status as honestus I am not sure it was the same when he was born or when his father was born. I wouldn't be surprised that he father was szlachcic, time will come and we will see. Think of Joseph in the reality of times and his achievements.
Note	From Robert Magnuski: All what was found resulted from finding that Apolonia was not born in Gralewo and conclusions fom J&J death records. Even true conclusions woluld not help much if there were no indices of those few parishes in geneteka that revealed Magnuskis and Sobierajskis. Most likely all Magnuskis and most of Sobierajskis from that area would be related to Jozef and Jadwiga. I have given some thoughts to Jozef. if his age was more less correct he arrived to Gralewo being around 35 to compete for a very well paid job of a brewer for a local landlord. He must have some experience and so do others but he got a job. He managed well enough that later he was trusted to run a mill. Combined income contributed to his moving the family to Warsaw later on. That was huge advancement for a man who spent all his life in a tiny remote village. And the family prospered there. Although it's all we know of him as of now it is enough to get some conclusion about him. I guess you appreciate his self-confidence demonstrated in leaving the rest of family and applying for an excellent job and later after financially successfull years moving to Warsaw. It's quite likely that he could read and write which was very unlikely for someone who was not from nobility. I wonder about his skills and abilities. Running a brewery even in XVIII c and operating machinery required technical knowledge and understanding of some processes that we call chemistry now. I know little of your line but I guess those technical abilities and skills were passed to future generations too. If Jozef were raised as a son of peasant his achievements are even more impressive. I think he had harmoniuous family life too. Knowing by Franciszek his mother's birth place might mean he was closest to her. As I said I do not know what happened to their children but if they got married and raised their families mean they were looked for and chosen as life partners. That's all I can think of them now Robert
Note	On 2015-10-25 Robert Magnuski wrote: I have been granted access to vital records from Ostrzeszow ordered by another genealogist to the Warsaw's branch of FHL. I have read records from 1745-1754 in search of birth of Jozef Magnuski husband of Jadwiga Sobierajska, who according to his death record ‏(and other)‏ was supposed to be born in Ostrzeszow between 1748-51. Unfortunately, within that period of time no birth of any Magnuski was found nor any Magnuski was a witness to any birth. The Ostrzeszow research has simply shown that Joseph's birth is not recorded there between 1745-54. Yet, Ostrzeszow was said as his birthplace to a priest by himself at his son's marriage record and his death record located his birthplace in Wielkopolska there might be one more thing that may suggest that his birth had taken place in Ostrzeszow anyway, but not at that time. I am referring to the given name of his firstborn son. Joseph gave it as the second name to his second son too after the firstborn passed away in childhood. This fact can be significant or can not. If you asked me I would say it worth to remember and if chances come explore.
Birth	Ostrzeszów 51,426853 17,931818 Według aktu ślubu syna Franciszka Ksawerego w 1820 r. liczył 69 lat, czyli mógł się urodzić w 1751 r. Beginnings of Ostrzeszów date back to the 13th century. It was granted civic rights in 1283. During the reign of Casimir III of Poland a castle was built in Ostrzeszów, which formed a part of a defense line on the Polish – Czech border of that time. From the 16th until the 18th century Ostrzeszów was a city "starosty", a seat of a county and lands tribunals. The city was burned down by Swedes during the Swedish Deluge of 1656. In 1793, as a result of the second partition of Poland, Ostrzeszów became part of Prussia. During the annexation period, under a German name Schildberg, it was a county town. It was also an important centre of Protestantism ‏(Poles and Germans)‏. After World War I the town of Ostrzeszów returned to the territory of Poland.
Marriage	Marriage date is assumed. No documents to support date or place. Daughter Apolonia died in 1790.
Marriage	Marriage date is assumed. No documents to support date or place. Daughter Apolonia died in 1790.